Please Close Thread! (the EpicJon affair)

[plugh]

Well, if it's any consolation, you should enter your map into the MSUC, you must win something if Epic already feel it's good enough to include in their Xbox content.

[EpicJon]

i have people here who know that i did this map long ago, its too much alike with the same boat mesh, the icebergs, and snow theme, im sorry but i don't think its a coincidence. thats just me, like someone said on anothe post, i should have been notified, and given credit for the original layout. im still waiting for a response from wartourist.


-EJon

[Mark Rein]

Jon,

I've asked our guys to look into this. As I said in my email to you I assure you that Epic is not the kind of company that would knowingly steal somebody's work.

[Mark Rein]

Originally Posted by Rhykker

Hmm have you considered that this may just be a coincidence?

The map you are referring to seems to be KoosBarge, the remake of the UT99 map KoosGalleon (though I could be mistaken).

Also consider how long ago you finished your map and posted it on these forums, and how long it would have taken EPIC to make their map. I don't think they would have had enough time to make the map; it was likely in development before you even posted your map...

You're probably correct here but I've asked our guys to look into it just in case.

Originally Posted by Rhykker

Furthermore, IIRC, in the past, EPIC has made use of user-created content, but with permission, and gave credit to the original author. Why would they start stealing now? And surely, they could not possibly think they could get away with stealing a user-created map.

Not just "with permission" but we've actually gone out and paid folks to license their maps when we've included them in one of our bonus packs or within one of our games.

I've got to catch a plane early in the morning but I told Jon we'll look into it and get him a response in the next day or two.

[EpicJon]

Thankyou, i appreciate it, although i never got your email - its Epic_Jon@yahoo.com


I hope we can get this sorted out. Thanks for getting me unbanned and a
kind response.


-EJon

[AnubanUT2]

Now this is what I like to see ... EJ getting a fair hearing so to speak and being allowed back into the community he has given to and is looking to give even more. Its nice to see someone at Epic really showing concern and saying they will look into. Its definitely not the exact same map and its true that Epic had a similar map like this years ago. I suspect that this is just an updated reimagined version that just happens to have a similar theme. One way to really shut the door on this is too determine when the Epic level was actually being developed. If the map was already in development when EJ first posted his then there is no way it could be anything but a coincidence. Welcome back EJ.

[EpicJon]

one question - why are 2 of my map threads deleted?

EDIT: Thanks anuban

I didn't know about any ut99 old map or whatever, it is possible, but it really does resemble the atmosphere and look of Arctic Shipment.

-EJon

[Tailsnake]

Originally Posted by EpicJon

one question - why are 2 of my map threads deleted?


-EJon

The same mod that banned you and closed this thread probably did it, those mods really need to calm down.

[Hyrage]

The other option that came to my mind when I read the first post is: best selected modding content on the 360.

But, keep us informed ^^ please .

But I know how you feel EpicJon, I felt the same way about many Halo 2-3 stuff... long story

[EpicJon]

Originally Posted by Tailsnake

The same mod that banned you and closed this thread probably did it, those mods really need to calm down.

that does raise some questions though, why did Flak delete the 2 threads with the Arctic Shipment map pics? Probably to cover up the fact that i created it or something... i don't really know, but i agree with you on the calming down part...

-EJon